WASHINGTON (AP) 鈥 President Joe Biden tried to explain this week that he doesn鈥檛 really think Donald Trump鈥檚 supporters are 鈥済arbage,鈥 but that doesn't mean that other people don't believe the label occasionally fits.
鈥淚 would say that some of them are garbage,鈥 said Samantha Leister, 32, who went to see at a rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
As for the rest of them? Leister, whose parents and father-in-law are backing Trump, says they are 鈥渕isguided.鈥
That same day, at Trump's rally in Green Bay, Wisconsin, the idea of voting for Harris was impossible to fathom.
鈥淚 just think they are uneducated, and they believe all the lies,鈥 said Shawn Vanderheyden, 44, who went to see Trump with his wife and two young daughters. 鈥淚t鈥檚 unfortunate.鈥
Vanderheyden still has faith in some people who are supporting the Democratic vice president, saying 鈥渉opefully they open their eyes."
The enduring truth of American politics 鈥 one that will undoubtedly outlast and this year's presidential campaign 鈥 is that many Trump and Harris voters view one another with disdain and suspicion. At best, they feel confused by people supporting the other party and anxious about the country's future
The wariness between Americans is not new, but interviews with voters in battleground states reveal that it's only growing deeper and more insurmountable. It鈥檚 divided families and friends, and it鈥檚 driven people further into their own political tribes.
Some said they believe the country is headed for an even more dramatic splintering.
Braxton Wadford, 20, predicted there would be a 鈥渕ass exodus鈥 of Americans after the election, regardless of who wins. He said people on both sides can鈥檛 imagine living under the opposing party鈥檚 leadership.
鈥淭he American dream is turning into leaving America,鈥 said Wadford, who voted early for Trump in North Carolina.
Jennifer Phelan, 60, has been volunteering for Harris' campaign in the same state, pushing undecided voters to cast ballots for the vice president. She's nervous about the election and can't see why it's so close.
鈥淚t just seems very much like a cartoon of good and evil,鈥 she said at Harris' rally in Raleigh.
The political animosity has been building for a while, helped along by historic upheaval. There was the outbreak of a global pandemic, a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and nationwide protests over racial injustice 鈥 and that was just in the span of a single year.
found that Democrats and Republicans are becoming more likely to view members of the other party as unintelligent, lazy, immoral or dishonest. And nearly everyone has a very or somewhat unfavorable view of the opposing party, according to an from September.
Travis Waters, 54, said Trump supporters are 鈥渄etached from reality.鈥 He has no one close to him who is a Trump supporter 鈥 and he's not looking to add any.
鈥淚 would think that the people who I choose to associate with are not people who support invading the Capitol, say and tell lies,鈥 Waters said while waiting in line for Harris' event in Harrisburg.
Trump has been a dominant figure in American politics for nearly a decade, contributing to polarization by demonizing his political opponents and fostering a sense of persecution among his followers.
鈥淟ook how they鈥檝e treated you,鈥 he said at one of his rallies this week. 鈥淭hey鈥檝e treated you like garbage.鈥
It was a reference to Biden's comments after , where a comedian called Puerto Rico a 鈥渇loating island of garbage.鈥
During a campaign call organized by the Hispanic advocacy group Voto Latino, Biden said that "the only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters. His demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it鈥檚 un-American."
Biden later stressed he was talking about the rhetoric, not Trump's supporters. And Harris said she disagrees 鈥渨ith any criticism of people based on who they vote for.鈥
Norma Jeffcoat, 72, said she was wounded by criticism over her support for Trump.
鈥淚 have loved ones that think I am voting for a racist,鈥 she said at a rally in North Carolina. 鈥淚t breaks my heart. I love my country so much.鈥
Jeffcoat is devoutly loyal to the former president, who she said has unfairly suffered through criminal prosecutions, political attacks and assassination attempts.
A Trump flag hanging outside her home has been shredded to pieces by the wind, but she rejected her husband鈥檚 effort to replace it.
鈥淚 said 鈥檔o,鈥欌 Jeffcoat said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 staying there until after the election because it symbolizes everything he鈥檚 been through.鈥
Nick Sandquist, 47, said Trump was a hypocrite to criticize Biden over his 鈥済arbage鈥 comment.
鈥淚t鈥檚 ironic for Donald Trump to use name calling for his advantage,鈥 he said at a Harris rally in Wisconsin. 鈥淲e鈥檙e not the type you have to worry about storming the Capitol.鈥
He said he occasionally talks about the election with his brother and father, who support Trump, but 鈥渋t doesn鈥檛 go very well.鈥
It was a common refrain from others as well, who describe discussing politics as more trouble than it's worth.
鈥淓verything we say, they have a ridiculous answer for,鈥 said Debi Franz, 66. 鈥淚t鈥檚 terrible to say because we don鈥檛 have a lot of conversations anymore. It鈥檚 fruitless.鈥
Her husband, Phil, 68, agreed.
鈥淚 just avoid it,鈥 he said as they waited for Harris to take the stage in Madison.
But at least one person decided to give it a shot this week.
Annette Uhlenberg, 52, attended Harris' rally in Raleigh and said she was inspired by her talk about rising above political disagreements.
So she took a picture with her campaign sign, wrote a message about putting 鈥渃ountry over party,鈥 and sent it to three of her friends who she believes will be voting for Trump.
None of them wrote back immediately.
But maybe, Uhlenberg hopes, it 鈥渁t least opens the door for conversation.鈥
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Licon reported from Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Levy reported from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Associated Press writers Makiya Seminera in Raleigh, North Carolina, and Scott Bauer in Madison, Wisconsin, contributed to this report.