NEW YORK (AP) 鈥 A Post-it note sat near Ari Aster while he wrote 鈥淓ddington鈥: 鈥淩emember the phones.鈥

鈥淓ddington鈥 may be set during the pandemic, but the onset of COVID-19 isn't its inciting incident. Outside the fictional New Mexico town, a data center is being built. Inside Eddington, its residents 鈥 their brains increasingly addled by the internet, social media, smartphones and whatever is ominously emanating from that data center 鈥 are growing increasingly detached from one another, and from each other鈥檚 sense of reality.

鈥淲e鈥檙e living in such a weird time and we forget how weird it is,鈥 Aster says. 鈥淭hings have been weird ever since we were able to carry the internet on our person. Ever since we began living in the internet, things have gotten weirder and weirder.鈥

鈥淚t鈥檚 important to keep reminding ourselves: This is weird.鈥

Moviegoers have grown accustomed to expecting a lack of normalcy in Aster's movies. His first three films 鈥 鈥 have vividly charted strange new pathways of dread and deep-rooted anxiety. Those fixations make Aster, a master of nightmare and farce, uniquely suited to capturing the current American moment.

鈥淓ddington,鈥 which A24 releases in theaters Friday, may be the most prominent American movie yet to explicitly wrestle with social and political division in the U.S. In a showdown between Joaquin Phoenix鈥檚 bumbling right-wing sheriff and Pedro Pascal鈥檚 elitist liberal mayor, arguments over mask mandates, Black Lives Matter protests and elections spiral into a demented Western fever dream.

At a time when our movie screens are filled with escapism and nostalgia, 鈥淓ddington鈥 dares to diagnose something frightfully contemporary. Aster, in a recent interview at an East Village coffee shop he frequents, said he couldn鈥檛 imagine avoiding it. 鈥淭o not be talking about it is insane,鈥 he said.

鈥淚鈥檓 desperate for work that鈥檚 wrestling with this moment because I don鈥檛 know where we are. I鈥檝e never been here before,鈥 says Aster. 鈥淚 have projects that I鈥檝e been planning for a long time. They make less sense to me right now. I don鈥檛 know why I would make those right now.鈥

Predictably polarizing

鈥淓ddington,鈥 appropriately enough, has been divisive. Since its in May, Aster鈥檚 film has had one of the most polarizing receptions of the year among critics. Even in Cannes, Aster seemed to grasp its mixed response. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 know what you think,鈥 he told the crowd.

Some critics have suggested Aster's film is too satirical of the left. 鈥淒espite a pose of satirical neutrality, he mainly seems to want to score points off mask-wearers, young progressives, anti-racists and other targets beloved of reactionaries,鈥 wrote The New Yorker鈥檚 Justin Chang. For The New York Times, Manohla Dargis wrote: 鈥淎ster knows how to grab your attention, but if he thinks he鈥檚 saying something about America, the joke is on him.鈥

Aster was expecting a divisive reaction. But he disputes some of the discourse around 鈥淓ddington.鈥

鈥淚 heard one person say it was harder on the left than the right, and I think that鈥檚 pretty disingenuous,鈥 he says. 鈥淚n the film, one side is kind of annoying and frustrating and hypocritical, and the other side is killing people and destroying lives.鈥

For Aster, satirizing the left doesn鈥檛 mean he doesn鈥檛 share their beliefs. 鈥淚f there鈥檚 no self-reflection,鈥 he says, 鈥渉ow are we ever going to get out of this?鈥

Capturing 鈥榳hat was in the air鈥

Aster began writing 鈥淓ddington鈥 in June 2020. He set it in New Mexico, where his family moved when he was 10. Aster wanted to try to capture the disconnect that didn鈥檛 start with the pandemic but then reached a surreal crescendo. He styled 鈥淓ddington鈥 as a Western with smartphones in place of guns 鈥 though there are definitely guns, too.

鈥淭he dread I was living with suddenly intensified. And to be honest, I鈥檝e been living with that level of dread ever since,鈥 Aster says. 鈥淚 just wanted to see if I could capture what was in the air.鈥

Scripts that dive headlong into politics are far from regular in today鈥檚 corporate Hollywood. Most studios would be unlikely to distribute a film like 鈥淓ddington,鈥 though A24, the indie powerhouse, has stood behind Aster even after 2023's $35 million-budgeted 鈥淏eau Is Afraid鈥 struggled at the box office. A24 has shown a willingness to engage with political discord, backing last year鈥檚 speculative war drama,

And Aster's screenplay resonated with Phoenix, who had starred in 鈥淏eau Is Afraid,鈥 and with Pascal. In Cannes, Pascal noted that 鈥渋t鈥檚 very scary to participate in a movie that speaks to issues like this.鈥 For Phoenix, 鈥淓ddington鈥 offered clarity and empathy for the pandemic experience.

鈥淲e were all terrified and we didn鈥檛 fully understand it. And instead of reaching out to each other in those moments, we kind of became antagonistic toward each other and self-righteous and certain of our position,鈥 . 鈥淎nd in some ways it鈥檚 so obvious: Well, that鈥檚 not going to be helpful.鈥

鈥楢 time of total obscenity鈥

Since Aster made 鈥淓ddington鈥 鈥 it was shot in 2024 鈥 the second administration of has ushered in a new political reality that Aster acknowledges would have reshaped his film.

鈥淚 would have made the movie more obscene,鈥 he says. 鈥淎nd I would have made it angrier. I think the film is angry. But I think we鈥檙e living in a time of total obscenity, beyond anything I鈥檝e seen.鈥

鈥淓ddington鈥 is designed to be argued over. Even those who find its first half well-observed may recoil at the violent absurdism of its second half. The movie, Aster says, pivots midway and, itself, becomes paranoid and gripped by differing world views. You can almost feel Aster struggling to bring any coherence to his, and our, modern-day Western.

But whatever you make of 鈥淓ddington,鈥 you might grant it鈥檚 vitally important that we have more films like it 鈥 movies that don鈥檛 tiptoe around today in period-film metaphor or avoid it like the plague. Aster, at least, doesn鈥檛 sound finished with what he started.

鈥淚鈥檓 feeling very heartbroken about where we are, and totally lost, so I鈥檓 looking for ways to go into those feelings but also to challenge them. What can be done?鈥 Aster says. 鈥淏ecause this is a movie about people who are unreachable to each other and completely siloed off, or fortressed off, a question that kept coming to me was: What would an olive branch look like? How do we find a way to reengage with each other?鈥

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